[Am1go]

ok first one:Why we have two names? Knits disciples of apocalypse (its sounds like he owns all of us) and Kapoks? i would leave only Kapoks in site logo aswell (no offense to Knit)
second - maybe some could write smwhere on main site "gaming since 2002" its really nice achievement
third - how about getting some new teams? like cs 1.6, et? and why cod4 isnt playing officials? what does trial mean in cb?
fourth - good news, maybe soon we will have kapoks pro public etqw server because kipster have loads of money and he dont know what to do with them:)

[Am1go]

ideas part II:

new logo for clanbase:


new logo 100x100 (for games.tv and qw.pl):





the question is do you like it and accept it, if yes then just accept one in cb, and then i will make 100x100 logo used in qw.pl and orrie on games.tv.

This post has been edited by Am1go: 19 September 2008 - 11:39 PM

[Tennek]

its guuuuuuuuuuurd, i like it, really colourful

[Am1go]

i like simple but pretty things

[Knit]

1. Though it's not obvious, "Kapoks" is the short-name for the clan's full-name "Knit's Disciples of the Apocalypse," derived as follows:

> Take certain letters from "Knit's Disciples of the APOCalypse"
> "Kapoc" looks a bit wierd, so let's replace the "c" with another "k"
> Finally, since "Disciples" in the full name is plural, it only makes sense that this becomes plural as well to get "Kapoks"

And that's why we have two names Our short-name currently appears at the bottom of every page, but I intend to incorporate somewhere at the top of the page and with the clan's symbol. However, I have no intention of removing the full-name otherwise people will forget what it really is
I proposed changing the clan's full-name back in January '07 because, like you, I feared it sounded too much like my posession, revolving almost entirely around me. I consulted some other clan members - those closest to me and members in administration - and the feeling that it shouldn't ever be changed was unanimous.


2. Again, that appears at the bottom But I've been trying to find it a home nearer the top as well. Just bear with me


3. We used to have a clan for ET but that was discontinued when ETQW was released. I tend not to add new clan regiments unless I'm either able to run/monitor them myself or if I can place them in the hands of people who I know fairly well and trust infinitely - such people are few and far between.

Kapoks.COD4 isn't in officials because it is on a trial period. Being on trial means that I have given someone (in this case, 7ele) the chance to take on a clan regiment in the name of Kapoks. It becomes an official clan regiment if and when it ticks all of the boxes, so to speak.

We've tested out many different games down the years and a lot of them haven't worked out, e.g. Call of Duty, Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War, Halo 2, to name but a few. We're always on the lookout for potential new expansions to the clan


4. Nice one! Dare I ask how Kip has come into such wealth? Has he been 'selling himself' again?

[Emerald]

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I proposed changing the clan's full-name back in January '07 because, like you, I feared it sounded too much like my posession, revolving almost entirely around me. I consulted some other clan members - those closest to me and members in administration - and the feeling that it shouldn't ever be changed was unanimous.

Yeah I think we all decided we love Knit so much he's allowed to own everything . He's been around so long he deserves to take full credit for what's going on here seeing as he's pretty much the only person who's been here the whole time AND been gaming for the clan. Noone really wanted to change something that's been around so long.

Linking Kapoks to Knit's Disciples of the Apocalypse really isn't obvious and I wouldn't be surprised if it confuses a lot more people in the years to come. Knit's Disciples of the Apocalypse also has the problem of not fitting in many places but there's really not much that can be done about that either

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how about getting some new teams? like cs 1.6, et? and why cod4 isnt playing officials? what does trial mean in cb?

As with Kip and ETQW I offered to help tele out with CoD4 and got shot down. He's hibernating waiting for one of his players to come back who got his ID banned. Sounds like Tele only wants to use the people he's already got and that this regiment will be entirely dependent on the people listed on clanbase for CoD4 and whether or not they can play. I find that SC and CSS are the only regiments that are actively attempting to get players from other regiments to join in with what they are doing... all the others seem to avoid the forums or, in FF's case, just sit in their own and hide. It would be great if we could, once a week, rotate through the games Kapoks plays and try to get EVERYONE from ALL the regiments onto one game together then swap the week after to another game.

As for 1.6: it's a load of balls looks pants, too many hackers and too much shooting thru walls! MP5 = sniper rifle, M4 = superweapon.

Knit already said about ET.

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new logo for clanbase:

The colourscheme doesn't really shout APOCALYPSE at me. While I do think the banner on CB needs updating (seeing as it has ET on it...) I do think we need to stick to the clan style. Also: we can't have a banner without the kapoks font!

[Am1go]

Emerald, on Sep 20 2008, 06:20 AM, said:

As for 1.6: it's a load of balls looks pants, too many hackers and too much shooting thru walls! MP5 = sniper rifle, M4 = superweapon.

lol so you are offended to this game, cs1.6 is the best mp game that even was vreated, it have the biggest amount of clans, the most lans, the mostawards, cups. i dont rly care about mp5 and m4 thats specification of this game, its like i would say As fot CS:S: it's too easy, you shoot the hs anad man dies 0 skill, loads of luck! but i cant say like that! there are no hackers on cs 1.6 on vac protected and in clanbase, cheating in cs is too obvious. and i dont care how game looks, gameplay is the more important.


btw when quake live willl be released i want to make instagib kapoks team because i love this game <3 and prolly we will have some ppl from etqw

[zenix]

About logos

for cb and tv its ok. If you want to have logo changed than kipster can change it.
About squads, i think the cod4 squad isnt doing alot? When are they playing officials? They dont seem to do alot...
I understand that knit wants to have a close multigaming clan. Not like most multigaming clans, where other squads barely know eachother.
Thats also something what makes kapoks special.

[Am1go]

example how good its looking on quakewars.pl:
http://quakewars.pl/?mecz:485

[Driskell]

The logo you proposed looks good, but it just isn't the style of Kapoks lol.
As for Kapoks not been an obvious short-hand???!!! Man you are all silly It's definately absolutely obvious

But yes, the reason I love Kapoks so much, is that isn't just a clan, it's a family. I'm pretty sure most people here would agree that we all know each other quite well lol.
And that's why we don't jump at starting new clans all the time, we see if it'll work first. In most cases, you NEED a person to take charge of the clan, and push events.

Back in the time of Renegade that was proof, you needed someone, preferably two people, to push others and keep it together, and eventually you had a great clan. Otherwise, you just end up with a few guys playing a few games, and imo not truely having fun. Which is really what we are all about, fun and friendship ... but with a dark side

Kapoks forever

[Deonilin]

That is such a great summery Jason xD

I do agree Kapoks is just the shortened name, tbh who would want to be writing knits desciples of the apocolpse all the time (i cant even spell it), the name tho does represent what we are which is great. I do agree with Dan that the clan should come together more - possible advance to other games in a more public play group sence but not as a serious clan. Knit over the years has managed the games added to the clan well and i think it has consitantly stayed a good size and has generaly adopted well.


As for the logos' i do agree that it is a nice colourful logo but its doesnt represent the clan or reflect the site. I personaly like a logo which is consistant with everything and colour schemes which both work in clarity and dramic impact along with a consitiancy and representation of what it is for. If people dont like the logos maybe a competition and clan group vote might be the best way to go with some basic peramiters set before dependant on their use.

I think it would also be nice for others to get into IRC so there we can have group chats and also shared voice comm software with channels for the games themselves and a lounge where we can all chat.

[Am1go]

kapoks.etqw mambers always at irc
/j #kapoks
/j #kapoks-priv lolled

[Emerald]

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lol so you are offended to this game, cs1.6 is the best mp game that even was vreated, it have the biggest amount of clans, the most lans, the mostawards, cups. i dont rly care about mp5 and m4 thats specification of this game, its like i would say As fot CS:S: it's too easy, you shoot the hs anad man dies 0 skill, loads of luck! but i cant say like that! there are no hackers on cs 1.6 on vac protected and in clanbase, cheating in cs is too obvious. and i dont care how game looks, gameplay is the more important.

most of that doesn't even make sense. and CS:S isn't too easy... 1.6 is too easy because you just spray thru everything and win every time xD

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But yes, the reason I love Kapoks so much, is that isn't just a clan, it's a family. I'm pretty sure most people here would agree that we all know each other quite well lol.
And that's why we don't jump at starting new clans all the time, we see if it'll work first. In most cases, you NEED a person to take charge of the clan, and push events.

havnt spoken 2 u since before ren closed... and i know ONE person in the ETQW a little bit and none of the rest. also i know 1 person in CoD4 even less than that and noone else! all the sections are VERY closed off... the person who knows people in each section well is Knit... not sure how many other than the leaders of sections he knows either! dont think he gets on CoD4 which isnt helping their section

this is why i've suggested getting together more often.

[lars]

God, you lot could use a touch of the good old "neuken in de keuken" times! I remember quite a few of tries of different games, but each time it seemed to fail due to the size of the clan getting to big with the more strange people not knowing eachother. Which is exactly why kapoks stayed together this long, the core people know eachother really well. I might have been out of the clan for quite a while now, but i still know about 10/15 people going around on the forums. This is probably also the reasons why Knit and the officers tend to stick to the same.


I should come back here more often, i might even make a comeback! ! (kapoks shivers)

[Tennek]

comeback? should of done that a long time ago lars <3 the pink shirt

[Am1go]

Emerald, on Sep 21 2008, 01:13 AM, said:

1.6 is too easy because you just spray thru everything and win every time xD

loal so beat Meet Your Makers plz! (www.mymym.com) or D-Link PGS! (www.dlink-pgs.com)

i dont like ppl with too high ego!

[Deonilin]

I cant see how you can say 1.6 has no hackers. It is one of the most hacked games - the number of clans is mainly due to the fact they were created when 1.6 was one of the few decent shooters out so you didnt have the variaty there is now.

source is not easy just slightly different. Physics and environment are more realistic but i do agree it is easier to get a headshot - but it is easier for everyone so you still need to be better than your opponant.

[Emerald]

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I cant see how you can say 1.6 has no hackers. It is one of the most hacked games -

like he said. so many people playing it for so long that theres bound to be. could have guessed before going on.

[Am1go]

ok there are some hackers in cs 1.6 but not too many in cb ladders/cups. anyway there were never a example when leading team was cheating because it was caught faster. im just angry because you said that cs 1.6 is easy, no it isnt!

[TyphoonR]

Am1go, on Sep 21 2008, 10:55 AM, said:

ok there are some hackers in cs 1.6 but not too many in cb ladders/cups. anyway there were never a example when leading team was cheating because it was caught faster. im just angry because you said that cs 1.6 is easy, no it isnt!

u r angry cuz dan said cs is easy, yet u r suprised dan's angry(?) cuz u said css is easy XD
neither of the games r easy
im sure that if u ask either 1 of the top clans from css or cs they will say their game is better or that the other ones easier,

just a pointless discussion with pointless arguments.
still, if u insist on ur point u shud come on once a while and prove us its easy

[Knit]

Emerald, on Sep 20 2008, 06:20 AM, said:

I offered to help tele out with CoD4 and got shot down. He's hibernating waiting for one of his players to come back who got his ID banned. Sounds like Tele only wants to use the people he's already got and that this regiment will be entirely dependent on the people listed on clanbase for CoD4 and whether or not they can play.

Nick tried to get involved as well but, like you, ended up getting shut out and has since had to turn his attentions elsewhere. I'd understand an existing member being given a chance to play in a new clan regiment and being turned down for valid reasons, but for two of our longest serving members to be denied even that is contrary to everything this clan represents.
Kapoks.COD4 might as well be playing under a completely different name, which may end up being the case anyway in the very near future.

[kipster]

if it aint broken don't fix it

[Deonilin]

is that in referance to 1.6 in which case why patch the game to 1.6 and even so all the above parties acept the differences between the game the argument was as to which was better (as conculded comes to an opinion which can not be a one or other answer.

If in reference to the COD4 clan i think the general consensus from clan members from other sections is that it is broken.

[Emerald]

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Nick tried to get involved as well but, like you, ended up getting shut out and has since had to turn his attentions elsewhere. I'd understand an existing member being given a chance to play in a new clan regiment and being turned down for valid reasons, but for two of our longest serving members to be denied even that is contrary to everything this clan represents.
Kapoks.COD4 might as well be playing under a completely different name, which may end up being the case anyway in the very near future.

I think we've got enough people in the CSS regiment alone to go onto CoD4 as well and give it a go... It might even be a decent way of getting some of the CSS and QW people together... maybe not quite as serious as either of the other two FPS regiments, play a few less games so not to hamper them, but if people have the time then why not throw in a match every now and then at least?

who's paying for the kapoks CoD4 server anyway?

[Am1go]

i wont play cod4 i dont like it , when quake live will be released i can kick your assess with my kapoks regiment there!